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    Default The new RN and British Army Diver watch is

    A citizen eco drive (one of these TWO CHOICES) a one for one replacement for the previous model as they become unserviceable. Issued to divers Royal Navy, Royal Engineers and Royal Logistics Corps, dive supervisors of all services, RN ships swimmers and boat operators of the Army. Royal Marines/Reconnaissance Leaders and UKSF continue to use the CWC SBS model.
    My son, a recce troop small boat operator with a specialist infantry battalion has just been issued one, I'll post some images when he is next home.

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    What type of boat's does your son operate ? Use be in a Special Boat unit in the US Navy we operated the old stuff not in use any more like PBR's and MINI armored troop carriers and another called a PBL a upgraded boston whaler those were rough in the waves remember one guy getting a dislocated knee once in those PBL's. Still interested what other Navy's use today.

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    They borrow Combat Support Boats (like big rigid raiders) or Pacific Rigid Inflatable Boats if needed but most of the time use their own Inflatable Raiding Craft. He trained as a Mariner, on small boats, landing craft and MEXEfloat rafts with the Royal Logistic Corps before transfer to the infantry, first in mortar platoon now in recce platoon. The Royal Marines who provide the manpower and support to the SBS use Pacific RIBs or the Offshore Raiding Craft or the harmed version Offshore Support Craft and are issued CWC SBS dive watches, usually passed on from the SBS. Knee damage on fast raiding craft is all part of the job, my lad is 25 with the knees of a 35 year old.

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    What type of boat's does your son operate ? Use be in a Special Boat unit in the US Navy we operated the old stuff not in use any more like PBR's and MINI armored troop carriers and another called a PBL a upgraded boston whaler those were rough in the waves remember one guy getting a dislocated knee once in those PBL's. Still interested what other Navy's use today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James K View Post
    They borrow Combat Support Boats (like big rigid raiders) or Pacific Rigid Inflatable Boats if needed but most of the time use their own Inflatable Raiding Craft. He trained as a Mariner, on small boats, landing craft and MEXEfloat rafts with the Royal Logistic Corps before transfer to the infantry, first in mortar platoon now in recce platoon. The Royal Marines who provide the manpower and support to the SBS use Pacific RIBs or the Offshore Raiding Craft or the harmed version Offshore Support Craft and are issued CWC SBS dive watches, usually passed on from the SBS.
    When I was in only RE's drove CSB's. We used to see how long we could hang off the dive platform as they were opened up on Lough Neagh. We had Dell quay Dory 17's I believe for the RR's. The CSB's had water jet propulsion not outboards and could stop on a sixpence..by doing a nose-dive into the wet stuff.

    Why would members of the Rather Large Corps need a Dive watch? Blanket stackers and drivers aren't they?...And why would Boat drivers need a dive watch. I can't remember RE boat ops being issued them. Neither did RE Riggy drivers (M2 Rigs)

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    17 Port and Maritime have boat troops (and the reserve 165 Regt). Even the Army website say's only the RE get CSB but the fact remains that the RLC do as well (perhaps no one told Land so they don't get taken away to save a penny) which is why they also have divers. The CSB (which one did you use) does have water jets but the hull form is like a big RRC (even more so if the canopy is off). 17 and 165 use MEXE, CSB, RIB's and workboats and until recently LCVP and RPL as well. Being 30 feet from the river bank at Hamlen I don't suppose that the M2/M3 operators needed diver watches but I'm pretty sure 28 Regt had divers
    Boat operators get wet so they get diver watches as the issue Pulsar isn't even sweat proof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geo7863 View Post
    When I was in only RE's drove CSB's. We used to see how long we could hang off the dive platform as they were opened up on Lough Neagh. We had Dell quay Dory 17's I believe for the RR's. The CSB's had water jet propulsion not outboards and could stop on a sixpence..by doing a nose-dive into the wet stuff.

    Why would members of the Rather Large Corps need a Dive watch? Blanket stackers and drivers aren't they?...And why would Boat drivers need a dive watch. I can't remember RE boat ops being issued them. Neither did RE Riggy drivers (M2 Rigs)
    The PBR's and MINI armored troop carriers also used water jet propulsion we just called them J-pumps they had a plate you could take off to clear debris from the impellors that would pump water from under the boat out through the gate to propel the boat. Weird how you never forget stuff the military trained you on.

    Web site about my old unit lots of photo's. Went to a reunion for this unit this year was good to see some of my old shipmates.
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    I forgot to ask if they are marked in any way ?

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    I don't know Ian. The last model some were and some weren't but I think the MOD have cottoned onto the idea that the resale value is greater if they are marked
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    I have to confess to kinda liking the modified pheon on the dial of the second one.

    James do you know if these will also be available as a civilian model to the general public?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myron View Post
    do you know if these will also be available as a civilian model to the general public?

    they are available now; price £249


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    Quote Originally Posted by Myron View Post
    I have to confess to kinda liking the modified pheon on the dial of the second one.
    That's the Citizen ProMaster logo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geo7863 View Post
    Blanket stackers and drivers aren't they?...And why would Boat drivers need a dive watch.

    As somebody who was commissioned RAOC and subsequently re-roled to RE EOD can I say that I both strongly object to and heartily agree with that statement .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reintitan View Post
    That's the Citizen ProMaster logo.
    Nice. I never knew that; thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James K View Post
    17 Port and Maritime have boat troops (and the reserve 165 Regt). Even the Army website say's only the RE get CSB but the fact remains that the RLC do as well (perhaps no one told Land so they don't get taken away to save a penny) which is why they also have divers. The CSB (which one did you use) does have water jets but the hull form is like a big RRC (even more so if the canopy is off). 17 and 165 use MEXE, CSB, RIB's and workboats and until recently LCVP and RPL as well. Being 30 feet from the river bank at Hamlen I don't suppose that the M2/M3 operators needed diver watches but I'm pretty sure 28 Regt had divers
    Boat operators get wet so they get diver watches as the issue Pulsar isn't even sweat proof.
    Good Lord no I wasn't a Boat op... I'm pretty sure that if the good Lord wanted me to make a living in water I'd have been born as a fish!

    I was a passenger a few times and in N.Ireland the boat ops would ring me up and see if I wanted a jolly on the Lough every now and then. As an instructor in Chatham I had friends who were Boat op instructors but they were all as mad as a bottle of chips so no way was I going for jaunts on the Medway with them!

    As an aside we had an incident in Ireland where one of the boat ops drove his DQ 17 a bit too fast over choppy water and an infanteer passenger suffered spinal injuries from the shock of the boat smacking down rather harshly on the wet stuff....no a life on the Ocean waves was (is) not for me! I preferred travelling around the province in the old Paraffin Parrots (Wessex's)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlton-Browne View Post
    As somebody who was commissioned RAOC and subsequently re-roled to RE EOD can I say that I both strongly object to and heartily agree with that statement .
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    My son had his new issued Citizen for almost a week before being ordered to return it to stores. In it's place he was issued an old style Citizen diver that is even more scratched and battered than the one he traded in. Boat operators are not getting the new watch until it becomes the "new" old watch after supplies of the "old old" watch have run out. The new model is just for divers replaced as stocks of the old watch are run down. Depending on stocks of the old Citizen it may be a little while before the new ones are issued.

    Meanwhile non limited editions, of this limited edition "Royal Marines" Citizen diver seem to be popping up with several of my friends in the Corps (without bracelet) which they say have been issued. Apparently have full issue markings on the back. I don't know, how widespread the issue is or why they were not issued the CWC UKSF/SBS watch (apart from not being UKSF/SBS) and the Citizen web page does not list a non limited edition model

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    Robust and durable, the Royal Marines Commandos Limited Edition Super Tough model mirrors the super tough mantra of the Royal Marines Commandos. Super Titanium ô crafting and Diamond-like-Carbon (DLC) Coated Case and Bracelet, with shock resistance for extreme toughness, One Way Rotating Elapsed Time Bezel and Wetsuit Expansion Clasp. It is also extreme temperature resistant -10c to +60c. Anti-magnetic and water resistant to 300m. This ISO-compliant Diverís Watch features the Royal Marines Logo on the Caseback. Limited to 1,500 pieces worldwide.
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    Comes in a CBP box and includes a compass!

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    Yep, I've seen guys get injured on fast boats as well and don't some of the boat drivers like showing off their high speed skills. I loved the old Wessex, far better than the puma especially with Fleet Air Arm pilots, I can't abide the air force who are just the paramilitary branch of British Airways!

    Quote Originally Posted by geo7863 View Post
    Good Lord no I wasn't a Boat op... I'm pretty sure that if the good Lord wanted me to make a living in water I'd have been born as a fish!

    I was a passenger a few times and in N.Ireland the boat ops would ring me up and see if I wanted a jolly on the Lough every now and then. As an instructor in Chatham I had friends who were Boat op instructors but they were all as mad as a bottle of chips so no way was I going for jaunts on the Medway with them!

    As an aside we had an incident in Ireland where one of the boat ops drove his DQ 17 a bit too fast over choppy water and an infanteer passenger suffered spinal injuries from the shock of the boat smacking down rather harshly on the wet stuff....no a life on the Ocean waves was (is) not for me! I preferred travelling around the province in the old Paraffin Parrots (Wessex's)
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