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    I've just seen her speech on "Get furious Fight Back" a very effective talk on a very scary situation. I think she's spot on, but then I live in Leningrad West where everything is offensive and nobody gets an opinion. A 5 times deported illegal Mexican felon who shot a beautiful woman in the back in front of her family gets a $1M trial, and sanctuary. He'll probably get off and be the toast of SF.

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    I think the Torygraph gets it just about right (no pun intended) - Katie Hopkins is a monster of our own making

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    Quote Originally Posted by ianp View Post
    I think the Torygraph gets it just about right (no pun intended) - Katie Hopkins is a monster of our own making

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    So Ian,
    I have no idea if her horror stories regarding the camps in Calais, or the Save the Children ferry boats hauling deadbeats across the Med are true. I have read news stories saying that they are. A couple of years ago I read Paul Theroux's book "Dark Star Africa" and he pretty much laid out the demise of law and order thanks to aid groups down there. I see what is going on in this country, the death of the opinion and the Leninesque political correctness that assures all dissent will be punished swiftly. What if Hopkins is correct? Is she Trump in a skirt or the canary in the coal mine? I was born and lived in California my whole life and I see how far out of whack it has become. I heard a poll recently that said half of millennials would prefer a socialist or fascist government over what we now have. I'd bet that 90% don't even know what those terms mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveH View Post
    So Ian,
    I have no idea if her horror stories regarding the camps in Calais, or the Save the Children ferry boats hauling deadbeats across the Med are true. I have read news stories saying that they are. A couple of years ago I read Paul Theroux's book "Dark Star Africa" and he pretty much laid out the demise of law and order thanks to aid groups down there. I see what is going on in this country, the death of the opinion and the Leninesque political correctness that assures all dissent will be punished swiftly. What if Hopkins is correct? Is she Trump in a skirt or the canary in the coal mine? I was born and lived in California my whole life and I see how far out of whack it has become. I heard a poll recently that said half of millennials would prefer a socialist or fascist government over what we now have. I'd bet that 90% don't even know what those terms mean.
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    I've worked on these migrant rescue boats and I can can say that I believe they are 100% ideologically funded and driven, and they more or less coordinate with the people traffickers.

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    Katie Hopkins? I think she's a horrible c**t and I've never met anyone who respected her opinion. Perhaps I live in a left-wing bubble, but I don't think I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodabod View Post
    Katie Hopkins? I think she's a horrible c**t and I've never met anyone who respected her opinion. Perhaps I live in a left-wing bubble, but I don't think I do.
    Would you say that her appeal is aimed more toward the Britexit folks. Over here we don't go to prison for having an opinion.....yet..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveH View Post
    Would you say that her appeal is aimed more toward the Britexit folks. Over here we don't go to prison for having an opinion.....yet..
    Although some are pushing hard for that option (of course, only if you have a "wrong" opinion). Life in New York state (probably not too different than Cali) is making it easier and easier to contemplate a move to Montana or Wyoming.

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    KH is an attention parasite, she spews vile thoughts to deliberately anger and to raise her own profile, to see an example of how much thought she cant be bothered to waste on thinking before she speaks look for the 'This Morning' interview where she criticises people for naming their children after Places names (Paris etc..), in here opinion such people are common and she would never let her children associate with them. The interviewers then point out that her own child is named ......... India

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    If she had a Cyma dial I would not buy her

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveH View Post
    Would you say that her appeal is aimed more toward the Britexit folks. Over here we don't go to prison for having an opinion.....yet..
    Yes, pretty much. You'd only go to prison here for full-on hate speech. I'm quite happy that Abu Hamza got banged up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jef33 View Post
    If she had a Cyma dial I would not buy her
    Haha. Now that is saying something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodabod View Post
    Yes, pretty much. You'd only go to prison here for full-on hate speech. I'm quite happy that Abu Hamza got banged up.
    So you are OK with some terrorist getting axed but a pack of hoodlums showing up and going on the dole is not a problem?
    I personally think that America is worth fighting for and our way of life here is valuable. I don't like to see it handed to a pack of ungrateful freeloaders who laugh at us all they to the bank. There are 38,000 illegals just here in our Sonoma County. Calif spends $10B US a year giving free shit to illegal Mexicans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveH View Post
    So you are OK with some terrorist getting axed but a pack of hoodlums showing up and going on the dole is not a problem?
    I personally think that America is worth fighting for and our way of life here is valuable. I don't like to see it handed to a pack of ungrateful freeloaders who laugh at us all they to the bank. There are 38,000 illegals just here in our Sonoma County. Calif spends $10B US a year giving free shit to illegal Mexicans.
    It’s a tricky question, but if it has to be “yes” or “no”, then yes.

    For the USA, it’s a country of immigrants anyway. Some of my family emigrated from Scotland to America and New Zealand for a better life many years ago. Not everyone is a hoodlum looking to get on the dole. The dole must be pretty mediocre in the US anyway. I think I was on 45/week before I eventually got a job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodabod View Post
    It’s a tricky question, but if it has to be “yes” or “no”, then yes.

    For the USA, it’s a country of immigrants anyway. Some of my family emigrated from Scotland to America and New Zealand for a better life many years ago. Not everyone is a hoodlum looking to get on the dole. The dole must be pretty mediocre in the US anyway. I think I was on 45/week before I eventually got a job.
    My family on the Hackett side dates in the US from the 1600's. My great great grandfather was born in Ohio in 1819. The Bruces date from the revolutionary war. The US was an immigrant nation 200 years ago. I don't think so today. The dole for the typical illegal family includes an $1500 apartment for less than half, free medical, dental and child care. Free education for all the kids, credit cards for free food, free breakfast and lunch for the kids in school. Most will drive their cars with no license or insurance. If they get caught, they are given free legal council and interpreters in court. An average drunk stop on Friday night will stop 900-1000 drivers and will net 1-2 drunks and around 35 Mexicans with no license or insurance. They are excused and keep right on doing it. Many up here don't pay taxes on income. In LA it is far worse with most working for cash.
    Meanwhile the US citizen who works gets none of this. They just have to pay for it. Locally around 35% of the school budget goes to educate illegal children. There are an estimated 38,000 illegals in our county alone. Illegals annually send $69B US home tax free, the majority of it going to Mexico.

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    Gosh life must be easy for you seeing everything in black and white, good guys (us) vs bad guys (them)...

    "An average drunk stop on Friday night will stop 900-1000 drivers and will net 1-2 drunks and around 35 Mexicans with no license or insurance."

    How about you balance this "statistic" - how many of the 900-1000 drivers were Mexicans with a license and insurance.

    In every community there are people who are living on the breadline - insurance and a license cost money or do you believe it's simply because these 35 Mexicans are "bad guys"?

    How many of the fully paid up licence and insurance holders declare all their income? The US loses $270 to people who cheat on their tax returns, do you hold them to the same moral accountability as the Mexican guy with no licence and insurance?

    As a final point the US is still a nation of immigrants - in 1980 5% of the US Population was native Spanish speaking, in 2015 it was 13%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrjones View Post
    Gosh life must be easy for you seeing everything in black and white, good guys (us) vs bad guys (them)...

    "An average drunk stop on Friday night will stop 900-1000 drivers and will net 1-2 drunks and around 35 Mexicans with no license or insurance."

    How about you balance this "statistic" - how many of the 900-1000 drivers were Mexicans with a license and insurance.

    In every community there are people who are living on the breadline - insurance and a license cost money or do you believe it's simply because these 35 Mexicans are "bad guys"?

    How many of the fully paid up licence and insurance holders declare all their income? The US loses $270 to people who cheat on their tax returns, do you hold them to the same moral accountability as the Mexican guy with no licence and insurance?

    As a final point the US is still a nation of immigrants - in 1980 5% of the US Population was native Spanish speaking, in 2015 it was 13%.
    Ad Hominem.....

    I see what I see. I was born here and have lived here all my life except for the 2 years in the Army/Vietnam.

    Why don't I include the legally licensed and insured people? They are not the problem. Those 863 people are doing what the law says they should do. Your reasoning being? As long as there are an equal number of legal drivers then the behavior is OK?

    I'm not talking about impoverished homeless people, I'm talking about people who come here to take advantage of our generosity and the political climate that makes illegals valuable as future Democrat voters. "In every community there are people who are living on the breadline - insurance and a license cost money or do you believe it's simply because these 35 Mexicans are "bad guys"? " If you can't afford to drive an automobile it's still fine to go ahead and drive?


    "How many of the fully paid up licence and insurance holders declare all their income? The US loses $270 to people who cheat on their tax returns, do you hold them to the same moral accountability as the Mexican guy with no licence and insurance?" There are people who break laws, because there are, it's OK for others to do it as well? People rob banks to get the money, I need money therefore it's fine that I rob banks.

    Sometime in 2014 Hispanics became the majority population group in California. Partly through birth rates partly through legal/illegal immigration.

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    If they are illegal... then how can they actually claim for any social handouts?

    That is a common 'fact' in the UK ..Illegals claiming the dole, housing benefits, they get more money than old age pensioners etc etc etc. it was on Facebook so often that a question was raised in the houses of Parliament and the answer was...its a load of Bollix. the very fact that someone is 'ILLEGAL' means that they can NOT legally claim anything. And indeed Illegal immigrants in the UK DON'T claim anything....they work on the black economy! So how do 'Illegals' in the USA get benefits?

    What the issue really is in the UK is, is(are) asylum seekers not illegals. Whether people should be considered for UK citizenship due to being refugees etc etc etc is a totally different issue from being in the country illegally.

    Should we allow in refuges from War torn countries? certainly! you would be a heartless ass if you don't think so. BUT and it is the crucial BUT...they MUST be thoroughly checked and vetted 'No passport or papers? no comey in' (ever seen the film Papillon? guess where my documents would be hidden if I thought that I had to flee!) as for the 'child refugees' ha ha ha they had better beards than me, and Sweden has just discovered that a massive percentage of their 'child refugees' something like 80% are over 18!

    Do we allow someone in from Somalia because they haven't got a job back home?..no feck off!

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    Quote Originally Posted by geo7863 View Post
    If they are illegal... then how can they actually claim for any social handouts?

    That is a common 'fact' in the UK ..Illegals claiming the dole, housing benefits, they get more money than old age pensioners etc etc etc. it was on Facebook so often that a question was raised in the houses of Parliament and the answer was...its a load of Bollix. the very fact that someone is 'ILLEGAL' means that they can NOT legally claim anything. And indeed Illegal immigrants in the UK DON'T claim anything....they work on the black economy! So how do 'Illegals' in the USA get benefits?

    What the issue really is in the UK is, is(are) asylum seekers not illegals. Whether people should be considered for UK citizenship due to being refugees etc etc etc is a totally different issue from being in the country illegally.

    Should we allow in refuges from War torn countries? certainly! you would be a heartless ass if you don't think so. BUT and it is the crucial BUT...they MUST be thoroughly checked and vetted 'No passport or papers? no comey in' (ever seen the film Papillon? guess where my documents would be hidden if I thought that I had to flee!) as for the 'child refugees' ha ha ha they had better beards than me, and Sweden has just discovered that a massive percentage of their 'child refugees' something like 80% are over 18!

    Do we allow someone in from Somalia because they haven't got a job back home?..no feck off!


    When I bought my present house, it was a property that was foreclosed by the bank. The guy who bought it had borrowed $566,000 and could not make the payments. For the last year that he still had the property, he had rented it out to illegal families for $1,000 to 2,000 US cash per month. He just put this cash in his pocket until the bank kicked everyone out of the house and sold it. So there had been a history of one illegal family after another living in the house for a few months and then moving on. After I moved in, almost on a monthly basis, large Fed Ex packages would arrive addressed to the illegal families that had lived here. They were usually addressed to Mexican women who had children. I finally opened one up and inside were forms to fill out for free services, most from the LA area. It included: free health care, free dental, free eye care, free food, subsidized housing, transportation vouchers and free child care. I worked for the one of the largest utility companies in the US and my retirement package was nothing compared to what these people were being offered. It was ridiculous. And the state government wasn't just giving away everything that these non-citizens could need, they were chasing them down all over the state looking for the illegals to give them free stuff.
    Organizations like Catholic Charities have advocates that lead illegals by the hand through the process so they can get the maximum amounts of free stuff. They are paid by the US government to do this and the Charities received millions of dollars every year for their services. Every swinging dick is a Catholic and a future Democrat voter, so liberal socialist states like California value the illegals much more than some troublesome grouchy US citizen. Certain cities in California are called "Sanctuary Cities" and as such, they excuse these people of their crimes committed by entering illegally and are guided through the system , provided with free legal services. And are not deported as they should be.


    "Should we allow in refuges from War torn countries? certainly! you would be a heartless ass if you don't think so."

    Any country that imports crime and poverty on a large scale will eventually lose their country and culture to the mob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveH View Post
    When I bought my present house, it was a property that was foreclosed by the bank. The guy who bought it had borrowed $566,000 and could not make the payments. For the last year that he still had the property, he had rented it out to illegal families for $1,000 to 2,000 US cash per month. He just put this cash in his pocket until the bank kicked everyone out of the house and sold it. So there had been a history of one illegal family after another living in the house for a few months and then moving on. After I moved in, almost on a monthly basis, large Fed Ex packages would arrive addressed to the illegal families that had lived here. They were usually addressed to Mexican women who had children. I finally opened one up and inside were forms to fill out for free services, most from the LA area. It included: free health care, free dental, free eye care, free food, subsidized housing, transportation vouchers and free child care. I worked for the one of the largest utility companies in the US and my retirement package was nothing compared to what these people were being offered. It was ridiculous. And the state government wasn't just giving away everything that these non-citizens could need, they were chasing them down all over the state looking for the illegals to give them free stuff.
    Organizations like Catholic Charities have advocates that lead illegals by the hand through the process so they can get the maximum amounts of free stuff. They are paid by the US government to do this and the Charities received millions of dollars every year for their services. Every swinging dick is a Catholic and a future Democrat voter, so liberal socialist states like California value the illegals much more than some troublesome grouchy US citizen. Certain cities in California are called "Sanctuary Cities" and as such, they excuse these people of their crimes committed by entering illegally and are guided through the system , provided with free legal services. And are not deported as they should be.


    "Should we allow in refuges from War torn countries? certainly! you would be a heartless ass if you don't think so."

    Any country that imports crime and poverty on a large scale will eventually lose their country and culture to the mob.
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CameraJoe View Post
    I've worked on these migrant rescue boats and I can can say that I believe they are 100% ideologically funded and driven, and they more or less coordinate with the people traffickers.
    Hi Camera Joe, I don't quite understand who you are saying is funding and driving the migrant rescue boats and coordinating with the people traffickers?

    I know I am late to this thread and to be honest don't want to get into a Katie Hopkins debate as I don't consider her worth any thinking time but if someone has first hand experience of something as disruptive as the migrant issue I am definitely willing and interested to listen.

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