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    On the bay there is this Omega 53 with the rare and desirable "T" dial and thin arrow.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Vintage...%257Ciid%253A1

    The seller, however, advertises it as a prototype.

    I have strong doubts about that. First for the fact that the dial is an MoD, and second the hands are not original. Why would it be a prototype with a late dial? And I doubt that the MoD would have gone to the trouble of putting the whole thing into a case (unmarked) with crown protection along the side. To me this looks like a put together and the price is already fairly high for just a dial and a movement. By the same token prices for this type of watches have gone sky high lately, so who is to say

    Verdict: put together or rare prototype?

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    Rare Vintage OMEGA British Military *PROTOTYPE* RAF Admiralty Thin Arrow Watch!

    Circled T Original Dial! Royal Air Force Prototype! Top

    Used watch but still in very good condition! Prototype Admiralty Royal Air Force military watch with thin arrow and circled T dial! Fixed bars too! Unsigned case as like the prototype!





































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    Omega case with a crown guard.... Could this be an Omega Admiralty case?

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    Should be Cal: 283. Everything is wrong. Horrible.

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    well this is probably the third one that I have now seen and they have all originated from Switzerland; basically it's the Lemania DS dial and handset. I will try and dig up some archive info on these when I have some more time..

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    Timeframe would fit better with the Lemania DS. Lugs appear to be with fixed bars.

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    Omega case with a crown guard.... Could this be an Omega Admiralty case?

    sure looks like it... i have an admiralty 135.015 that looks the same (166.038 is very similar). mine is a cal 601... 565 were also common in admiralty watches... i don't think i have ever seen a cal 286 in an admiralty case.

    franken?

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    My first thought when I saw the case. Case probably had to be altered as these held a 613 caliber

    Back is different on the original case. Flat

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    This other Cal 601 example with different parts sets alarm bells ringing for me:


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    Similar hands from circa '65 apparently:


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    I saw one if those omegas about 10 Years ago. But other than that.....never say never eh. Saw one before even the lemania DS was considered correct.

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    this is probably the first one that I can recall from back in 2010 -

    http://www.mwrforum.net/forums/showt...y-Real-of-Fake

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    Movement is 1963, so within the realms of posibilty

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    yes and Omega were already supplying the Royal Navy with a DS H.S.10 watch back then only to have it superseded by the Lemania DS in 1965; the new sweep seconds must have been a great advantage for timing exercises.

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    Maybe this omega, paved the way for the eventual Lemania, with that distinctive sweep hand. Which after all was very much an Omega trademark hand type.

    https://www.ssongwatches.com/blogs/j...ive-supervisor

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodabod View Post
    My thoughts exactly!

    It's a right dog's dinner, and none of it military Omega...


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