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Thread: First Real Watch, WWW GRANA, Need Info

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    In my ATP database of 720 watches, there are 9 noted that are marked WWW.

    1 Cyma
    3 Grana (all with M prefix - 2145, 2311, 4527)
    3 Lemania (all with Q prefix)
    2 Timor

    I will add the 3 other WWW-marked Grana ATPs mentioned here to my database, that makes a total of 6.

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    conclusions -

    originally this was probably a legit ATP but there are no markings to confirm.

    the watch may have been upgraded, the case back skimmed and the WWW marking applied.

    it is not however a WWW watch.

    this is a 100 - 300 watch; it is not a 1,000 - 3,000 watch.

    then there is this statement that is being purported around -

    Grana were responsible for supplying service wristwatchse to the British Army during WW2. Grana A.T.P. and W.W.W. watches are particularly desirable on account of their extreme rarity. This example is a part of a small consignment of Grana contract watches which were designated 'W.W.W specification' with white A.T.P. dials. These may have been the first consignment of W.W.W. watches before the introduction of black dials...

    that's a big *may* and without supporting documentation is pure nonsense.

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    now relisted and with an extortionate buy it now..

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    As for the claim regarding the "extreme rarity" of Grana ATPs, in my database there are 52 Granas noted, behind only Moeris (105), Revue 57 (62) and Lemania (59).

    And this watch will realistically fetch between 100 - 200, and then only because of the oddity of its WWW-marked caseback.
    On all other counts, it is a rather poor example of a Grana ATP.

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    I can't remember whether I gave you the number of my Timor. Www 13021
    strangely this watches has never been worn. A few nicks and scratches as you'd expect from the War Department. Absolutely no signs of wear and when I first wound it, it ran for nearly 2 days, so the spring has certainly not seen any wear. I'll have to get in touch with Ulric for a valuation!!

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