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    eBay item number:263039092066

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    Military diver watches Longines HS 1943-1944 WW2

    Sold for: 1,500.00 GBP - Approximately $1955.70 USD - Buy It Now























    work. but need clean and oil. silver case, diam 51 mm, with crown 67 mm, 17 mm thickness.

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    The dial and hands look like replacements. The Case looks legit wonder if the movement was original to the watch ?

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    VINTAGE WWII ULTRA RARE LONGINES H.S MILITARY DIVER WATCH. SOLID STERING SILVER.

    Price: 32,000.00 GBP





































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    Quote Originally Posted by river rat View Post
    wonder if the movement was original to the watch ?
    no..

    it should be a gilt 12.68N.

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    I'm guessing that's a replica.

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    I doubt it seiji. Looks good. More likely the innards where junk water damaged or some such. Someone has just plonked in a generic 12.68. Let's face it, this will be an an eaier fix than some. Drop in the correct movement and get the dial done. It's rare enough that even with a redial it's got to be worth a she'd load more than the Bin price. I'd have snapped it up without blinking, as I'm sure the recipient did. Amazing score for someone.

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    What surprises me is that it seems it was listed for over a month before being bought. Maybe it wasn't showing up in searches, or maybe the seller edited the price or the listing significantly (it sold around 6 hours after an edit).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seiji View Post
    I'm guessing that's a replica.
    I agree. Weren't all the cases for these made in silver by A T Oliver? Where's the stamp? And why would it end up in (gulp) the Russian Federation?

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    Now that i'm looking at it on the computer.....Aye maybe you're right, bloody good case detail though, impressive work. I'd probably still have pulled the trigger. It's strange that someone would go to all the trouble to replicate the case, and yet not faithfully the dial. I guess if i wanted to be persuaded that it wasn't correct, the markings on the back would be the ones. They don't look right at all. Easy to get greedy eyes when you see something like this. If its a fake, it's a clever route in for deception.
    Last edited by foilguy; 08-07-2017 at 04:13.

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    hmmm; a tricky one..

    the ebay listing is suspiciously quite vague.

    it would be easy to trip up on this one!

    Martin is correct; the ATO maker's mark is missing.

    there are also several other case discrepancies but I won't point them out.

    apart from the incorrect movement everything else is fake, replica, or franken -

    depending on how you view it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hookedseven View Post
    What surprises me is that it seems it was listed for over a month before being bought. Maybe it wasn't showing up in searches, or maybe the seller edited the price or the listing significantly (it sold around 6 hours after an edit).
    Could also be the refinished dial and incorrect movement put buyers off if they thought it was fake. Maybe the buyer finally decided the case was at least real and a bargain at the price

    Little unwearable at 51 mm, so a redo and resell later on

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    I saw it , and if I remember well, the seller mentionned that it was a replica (homage). Still cool 😎

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    A nice fake, especially for the case. I wonder whether or not we'll see more of these coming up on the market? A bit frightening if you think about it.

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    he has three other watches for sale with the same handsets...

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    it's a great shame as the watch was actually an extremely nice homage until the Longines name was applied to the dial and the military markings were added to the case back; now in my mind it will only ever be a fake, counterfeit, replica, franken watch!

    this same watch did however appear briefly on the PX and replica was stated along with made in a single copy by special order..

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    Same discrepancies but is now C32 on the bay out of Moscow. Collect only. No thanks comrade.

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    Military diver watch Longines HS 1942-1943 WW2 12L























    big silver watch case 51mm in good condition. according to number of watch movement it's 1942-1943...

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    Pretty soon they'll be adding fake matching numbers to the case, bezel, caseback, etc.. The prices of genuine 12L Longines movements with serial numbers matching the period is also going to go through the roof.

    Notice also on the last one on the Bay, it mentions that the watch could be 1942-43...thanks to the movement serial number....the first one they at least said it was "in the style of".

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