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    Memorial not for BQ and just a day off. It's to remember Veterans that did not make it home or ones that did make it back and had good life's until they past. Before I joined the Navy all I thought was it was a day to BQ get drunk and high and a day off then I learned what it was all about when I joined the service. The other day my post 65 of the American Legion and the Local VFW put flags on all the veterans graves and got to do it for my Dads grave this is what Memorial day all about. One veterans grave did not have a grave stone just a piece of paper on a stick and he was buried a few years ago dam I am thinking of buying the stone my self it kind of pissed me off any veteran gets a free stone from the Govt. if you put in the paper work I hate lazy family members that don't give a shit. And that tattered American flag on the flag pole we took it down and a new flag getting put on today. And to day I think of BM2 Kellywood some one I took there duty and stood his watch so he could go out in town when our ship was in the Philippines were the next day he was found with his neck broke and floating in shit river to this day I have guilt would he be alive today if I did not take his duty day veterans even die in peace .






    My Dads grave.

    And cool video for Memorial day
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    One of my close friends was killed in a car wreck a few years back. His wife asked me to take care of ordering the government headstone. They are Brass/bronze. I asked them to put 50th Infantry on it which was his outfit in the war. They just couldn't take the time I guess. It just said SGT Vietnam. I would feel pretty bad as well about some Vet with a paper grave marker. I'd bet that a letter to your congressman would get that taken care of and give this guy the proper respect he's due.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveH View Post
    One of my close friends was killed in a car wreck a few years back. His wife asked me to take care of ordering the government headstone. They are Brass/bronze. I asked them to put 50th Infantry on it which was his outfit in the war. They just couldn't take the time I guess. It just said SGT Vietnam. I would feel pretty bad as well about some Vet with a paper grave marker. I'd bet that a letter to your congressman would get that taken care of and give this guy the proper respect he's due.
    I was thinking of that just mite take a photo of that grave with out the proper marker and send a email with it to the congressman and both senators.

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    That is sad. If you decide to get one let me know I'm in. My dad lost all his WWII items in a fire after the war. Years later I contacted one of out US Senators (Kay Bailey Hutchinson) to be exact. They got right on it and within a month he got all his medals, papers all in cases....Worth a try...

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    RR, your local VFW vet rep should be able to assist in requesting a grave stone marker:

    http://www.military.com/benefits/bur...d-markers.html

    Also, here's the information needed for requesting replacement medals and military records:

    http://www.military.com/benefits/bur...d-markers.html

    And, just in case you require assistance with your own affairs, eBenefits is for the veterans usage:

    https://www.ebenefits.va.gov/ebenefits/homepage
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    Took my brother over to Belgrade MT to MT veterans affairs for some thing and ask about this you can't do any thing with out the relatives permission I did point it out to the leader of the local VFW who was also doing flags that day so maybe he can get in touch with the relatives and get the ball rolling. You know what sucks if the kids hate there Dad enough there can be a piece of paper on your grave as a vet nothing the VA can do about putting a stone on your grave with out there permission a crock of shit. We were talking that's how the law works hopefully not in this case. Remember don't piss off your kids.

    Quote Originally Posted by msa6712 View Post
    RR, your local VFW vet rep should be able to assist in requesting a grave stone marker:

    http://www.military.com/benefits/bur...d-markers.html

    Also, here's the information needed for requesting replacement medals and military records:

    http://www.military.com/benefits/bur...d-markers.html

    And, just in case you require assistance with your own affairs, eBenefits is for the veterans usage:

    https://www.ebenefits.va.gov/ebenefits/homepage

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    "Remember don't piss off your kids."

    So true...
    One of my dads friends/neighbors was a retired O6, USAF pilot, WW2/Korea/Vietnam era, etc...
    He had been married a couple of times and had kids from the first one, but not the second. His second wife preceded him in death and when it was his time to go his kids treated him terrible. I remember after he died his kids were cleaning out the house to put it on the market. They threw away his military awards, decorations, plaques, military photographs, albums, uniform items and any other items they felt were worthless. My dad talked to the kids and told them the importance of their fathers role during his time in service. They weren't the least bit interested, so he went through the garbage bins gathering up as much as possible to take to the local VFW Post. They were interested and put some of his stuff on display including some photos and his Bronze Star. Pretty sad state of affairs and actions from his kids, they were pissed at him for divorcing their mom and marrying the second wife.
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    That's incredibly sad. The records, awards and decorations should remain within the family. The reality is that not all marriages work, but that should not detract from the what the parties accomplished.

    There was recently a close bereavement in my family. My father and I went through a lot of things that were up in the loft and one large envelope contained documentation relating to my maternal grandmother's brother who died (officially MPK - Missing Presumed Killed) on Nov 24th 1941. It included his posthumously awarded Atlantic Star medal. I believe that he was the last male of that particular branch of the family and there is importance in remembering him. All of this documentation will be handed down to my sons and I hope that they will treat it with respect.

    Maybe one day I will research the Wainright/Woodmansey side of the family tree.

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    Funny, I was thinking about the same thing. BBQ's weekend trips (vacation type) etc. Sure there are many cities who place out flags ect, and even have ceremonies. But the bulk of the population that has not served or knows no one who has, and has fallen in battle the national holiday is lost on them. It is perhaps not their fault though. Patriotism and the rememberence of the fallen usually is close to the families of those fallen hero's of our great country. I suspect there many families paying respects and I know surviving veterans feel nothing but blessed and possible a little guilt on this day.

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    There are two generations of kids who made eating a hobby. Times were never tough and everyone got a trophy. Of course they don't give a shit about the country or the people that made it great. They don't read so the only history they've ever learned is in movies. Blame the schools and the parents with a cell phone stuck up their ass who let the schools major in politics.

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    If its not an iphone, its worthless to them. I am very sick of this.

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    Well I went back to the cemetery got the vet's name and did a search of the last name in the local phone book nothing. Then did a search of the net found the obituary and it said he died when living at Alamogordo New Mexico and was brought to Ennis MT to be buried and the funeral date if you wanted to attend. Nothing on family or military service like nothing. I know some of you are good at tracking down military service from names on the back of watches any one want to help send me a PM and I will give the name and date of birth and date of death and above is all the info I know. If there is no relatives and get more info on his military service I mite be able to get one of MT senators to do the rest of the work.

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