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    Am I right in thinking / remembering that Eddie Platts got NATO stock code nos. for some of his watches? Not that they ever were issued but they could be and were legitimately entitled to use / have the stores ref on the back.


    Might be worth dropping him a line and seeing how he went about doing that.

    Good luck with the project!
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    I wonder if some modern quartz movements have equivalently sized mechanical versions. For example, some ETA quartz can be directly subbed for some ETA mechanicals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myron View Post
    I love my CWC reissue. Very solid build quality, a pleasure to wind and use, and even though I loved all my genuine Fab Four watches I will say that I don't miss the vintage watch issues that sometimes came with them. I bought my CWC before they jacked the price up on them, so for me it was a great value. Your mileage may vary, of course.

    Myron
    To me as long as a vintage one is serviced after getting it you have no issues. It seems a lot don't service there watches they buy them and wear them for a while and then flip them and never know the service history so the next guy got to deal with it. I see that a lot with some of the stuff I buy and is why I get them serviced before I wear them on a regular bases. I got a vintage Sinn chronograph I bought last year the seller never serviced it and don't know the last time I was the sweep hand don't line up it's the next one I will get serviced and will not wear it until it's serviced. I once bought a vintage Hamilton 940 pocket watch when new to collecting watches wound it before having a watchmaker check it out pop went the main spring so from then on every watch I buy gets checked out and serviced if needed then no issues. I never like remakes of vintage tried that with a MK II blackwater sold it and got a real Benrus Type II getting them serviced it the trick to keeping them running great with out problems.

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    How can I get on the mailing list. Sounds like the perfect everyday beater watch.

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    Just received this email from Ewan, all sounding good and I for one am happy with the movement choice. The loss of a running second hand on a quartz chrono doesn't bother me in the slightest and relieved he didn't decide to increase the case size. Can't wait for some prototype images to surface.

    Anyway...

    Dear all



    Firstly, a big thankyou to you all for showing an interest in the project. As with many (most!) projects of this kind, delays are almost inevitable. In the case of the 6BB, it is quite literally the case that has caused delay due to our limited access to an original watch and the subsequent re-drafting that has taken place. It has been my quest for perfection that has played more than a passing part in the time it has taken to get to this stage!



    Suffice to say, I am hugely pleased to announce that I have now signed off the drawings for the watch case, crystal, crown and chronograph pushers. In this regard we have come as close as we think possible to the original watch, retaining the spirit of the 1980 original amidst the constraints of using a modern movement. This leads me to the movement itself – from the outset, I discounted the idea of using a mechanical movement due to potential reliability issues and/or cost issues. I wanted to make the Newmark affordable and reliable at the same time; a watch to wear without worry so to speak.



    I started off by selecting an ISA calibre – the 8371B to be precise; this was scrapped for two reasons, the first being the precarious financial state of ISA (who have I believe now ceased trading) and the second being the behaviour of the chronograph minutes hand with the chronograph running (it demonstrated a jitter which I wasn’t comfortable with). So, I moved to the Miyota 6S21 with a 1/4 second chronograph seconds hand and 30 minute counter – not ideal at 4bps and no mecha arrangement for chronograph resetting. Rejecting the 6S21 was decided for me in the end quite simply because the movement is too big; we would have had to upscale the watch case to some 42mm for it to be feasible and for me this was totally out of the question.



    So to the movement which has been selected and the Seiko VK64 mecha-quartz. Use of this movement has allowed us to retain the original case size, it has the benefit of a 1/5 second chronograph seconds hand and of course the mechanical engagement and disengagement of the chronograph. The compromise (if it is indeed so) here is instead of a running seconds hand we have a 24hr hand on the 3 o’clock sub-dial. I thought long and hard about this and decided that the benefits of the VK64 far outweigh the lack of a running seconds hand. In fact, there is no outward indication that this is a quartz movement. So, the VK64 it is and I feel comfortable and confident in this choice.



    At present I am working on the final adjustments to the dial and hands and these should be finalised within the next few days, we are not using stock hands, we are reproducing the design of the original. Thus, this update is also to let you know therefore that working prototypes are now underway. In the interim, there will be updated renders which I will share with you as I receive them.



    I do hope that this little update is useful for you and I would be really grateful for any of you to spread the word about the project. I would love to carry the Newmark name forward on other watches but will only be able to do so if the 6BB is a success.



    Thanks again and best wishes



    Ewan

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    I also got the email and I am glad to say the choice of movement has swayed me back in to the definite buying camp.

    I had been put off by the choice of Quartz movement.
    But Mecha Quartz sounds good to me.

    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinnlover View Post
    I also got the email and I am glad to say the choice of movement has swayed me back in to the definite buying camp.

    I had been put off by the choice of Quartz movement.
    But Mecha Quartz sounds good to me.

    John
    I had exactly the same turnaround today when I got the update from Ewan. Sounding like a cool project!

    Myron

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    All I can say is, SiGN ME THE !!! UP.. can't remember the last time something like this got the juices flowing..👍🏻

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    Does anyone know what the probable price will be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave View Post



    sorry Lee but I couldn't help myself; classic sock drift with knobbly knees edited out.
    OK, I'll take a pair!

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