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    Post Is this restorable or did I get parts - Part 1

    I about to make the transaction for this watch.
    Did I get a restorable watch or just a bunch of parts.

    http://www.ebay.ca/itm/201521757268?...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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    holy mackerel; I mean eh congrats!

    you've certainly got more whatever it is than me.

    and there was me worrying about the availability of a couple of movement parts!

    guess everything is restorable, but cost effective?

    good luck in your venture if you decide to accept your mission...



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    I guess all is relative. I accept my mission, it should get me to a ripe old age and cost me a fortune.
    Guess I'll have to clear a few in the drawers to cover repair cost.
    I'll post pics later when I get my hands on it.

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    original german world war two pilots watch tutima chronograph wristwatch ww2 luftwaffe serial no 210015 later war issue
    needs to be restored
    Closed: 1500.0 USD - Bid Count: 0









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    Sell the guts, drop in a quartz movement and she'll be fine.

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    Sounds good,won't have to wind it ever morning.

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    What a magnificent wreck! I'm afraid unless your sitting on a Nibelungen hoard of treasure, restoration would be cost prohibitive. Joe A.

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    You learn when to give up after you take one of these down. Remember this is a miniature machine powered by a tiny spring. The chronographs being the most complicated examples. They are made from flash plated soft materials that get righteously fucked up easily. You get inside one of these and as you dig deeper you start to realize how badly they are ruined. Rust never sleeps. In 60-70 years of work, you are swimming upstream. It's not impossible, but it is impractical.

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    Movements/case with serial N# higher than 210000 are russian post war assembled. So not 100% German, some parts maybe only.
    You can also compare the 210000 movement with pre 1945 movements, big quality difference.

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    So I guest I have to decide to keep it as a relic or give it back a life. A long term project. I've had those before and have had success. Maybe this will be my Waterloo. I paid a bit cheaper then appears on Ebay,we're meeting tomorrow for the pick-up.

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    There's an Australian watchmaker I used to talk with named dAz who always said anything can be fixed if you're willing to spend the money. Chances are you will spend near market value for a working example to get this one up and running.

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    Some do miracles but that dial has been far in hell.

    Being you, i'd ask around in the german watch collector's world for a weareable dial and movement parts, with no response, i'd sell it for parts and probably get me a nice watch.

    How much and why you paid for it is also a matter.

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    Uhrenmeister Buse in Mainz Germany, has all needed parts...but it may cost you four arms and six legs...and you still have an "original post war" Glashütte...

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    Post GH 210XXX

    thought the movement serial numbers above 215XXX and 217XXX were the post war variants?

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    Judging by their prices it will indeed cost you several limbs

    Euro 34,600 for this restored version





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    But they do have this for Euro 260,000 - A. Lange & Söhne, Artillerie B-Uhr M-B, Silber 0,800, Beneschau, 1941









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    This is what I found about serial numbers:


    1. Early quality production (from 1941) : 200344 - 204944
    2. Middle quality production (from 1942?) : 204084 - 210889
    3. Later quality production (from late 1942?) : 211459 - 213383
    4. Late war production (after 10th Nov 1943) : indicates likely not assembled into complete watches by the Germans.
    5. Post war assembled production : 214545 - 218 527
    6. Post war Russian production 02014 ...

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    My info are from Meister Buse and the first edition of K. Knirim's book "German Military time pieces".
    I am aware there are a lot of debates about these N# and their datings, but facts are, the N# higher than 210000 dont sell so well and still plenty arround, furthermore the quality of execution of these N# is by far lower than the pre 210000 series.
    Just also compare production amounts per year... in 1942 ( no bombs yet over Germany, no raw material shortage, yet) only 1000 Chronos!..
    In 1943 over 6000 or more Chronos!...
    ...all according to certain references!
    Again, not my statement only, but from others...to be debated...

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    Hello pilotswatch, iam under going a similar restoration on an earlier numbered Glashutte. I am not sure the money is that much of an issue, subject to weather or not you can afford the restoration. I think you need to confirm the date of manufacture, if you can confirm and are happy that its a WW2 issue and used version, then i would get prices for the restoration. Mine is in the process of being restored, but trying to keep as original as possible including leaving the dial original. Looking at the movement it seems to be in quite good condition and as far as i can tell no parts missing. If its need a rebuild, pushers, crown and winding stem, that all seems very do-able and not to restrictive in price, you paid less than 1500$us. If you spend another 2000$us on getting it up and working you still have a watch that is only getting rarer for quite a lot cheaper that you can buy even now. For me it all hangs on if the watch is a WW2 one or not. Regards Clive

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    Thanks Clive for the encouragement. I think I'll need a few more parts from what I see. I'll a least get an estimate for restoration. Please send me you contacts.

    The seller purchased a military lot from a soldier who brought it back after the war.
    I understand that the quality was not the same when the factory was sent to Russian.
    Mine seems to have the same quality then those made in Germeny.

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