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Thread: Flight LT Frank Jekyll and his IWC Mark XI (1952)

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    Thanks everyone for the kind comments. Frank was very generous with his time and answered every question I had. It was a great visit.

    Actually Raphael, without MWR, this whole thing would never have been possible because I would have had no idea how addictive these watches can be...so a thanks to Bob and everyone for the opportunity to learn and to share.

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    Default I will never see the post that can ever top this one.

    WOW. If this doesn't drop your jaw, nothing ever will.

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    Thank you for this great post!
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    Default Bravo!

    Awesome story and post!



    The watch ain't half bad, either.

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    Great post. Thanks. I once met a Canadian WWII pilot with approx 40 missions under his belt. Wish I could have had the same opportunity to take pictures and converse with him. Unfortunately he passed away.

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    Default Bugger. Should be 'Christie's', not 'Sotheby's'. Old age brain phart.

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    Thanks for sharing this wonderful story. I think all of us here at MWR wish that our watches could be linked to the original owner, and the history of our watches could be revealed. Regards - Lars

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    Default This gets my vote for MWR Post of the Year!

    Many thanks kkmark for sharing this wonderful story!

    It's marvelous to have such wonderful provenance for your watch.

    I can only wonder if my RAF issued Mark XI 1166/52 had a similar service life.

    If only our watches could speak!

    Kind regards

    Chris in Melbourne

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    I have more info to share. When Frank and I met, I took some video footage of him speaking about various topics (navigation, astro navigation, the deliberate destruction of milwatches etc.). I will find these videos, upload them to YouTube and post links for all to view.

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    Here is some video of Frank that I took during the same visit. Just found the clips.

    On Astronavigation:
    http://youtu.be/1cDE9ZyYZDk

    Frank recounts the story of flying the young (future) King of Jordan and his Queen Mother to safety:
    http://youtu.be/1XU6fwehc9Q

    Why the RAF bases destroyed milwatches (2 videos)
    http://youtu.be/Ri-YalHInQs
    http://youtu.be/Kr6qiQvasQs

    Why a watch is useful in navigation and where the IWC Mark XI was issued:
    http://youtu.be/2RIxqP31N7Y

    Cheers,

    Ken

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    Marvelous, Frank has a crystal clear memory of what went on 50 years ago.
    my respect goes to him, I salute you Sir!
    A man I´d love to be able to talk to...
    Thank´s once again for letting us see your video footage.

    All the best

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkmark View Post
    Here is some video of Frank that I took during the same visit. Just found the clips.

    On Astronavigation:
    http://youtu.be/1cDE9ZyYZDk

    Frank recounts the story of flying the young (future) King of Jordan and his Queen Mother to safety:
    http://youtu.be/1XU6fwehc9Q

    Why the RAF bases destroyed milwatches (2 videos)
    http://youtu.be/Ri-YalHInQs
    http://youtu.be/Kr6qiQvasQs

    Why a watch is useful in navigation and where the IWC Mark XI was issued:
    http://youtu.be/2RIxqP31N7Y

    Cheers,

    Ken
    Thanks Ken (and Frank). A very enjoyable story. I really like the Youtube interviews.

    take care, Ken

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    This is a fabulous story, and reunion. More of the same please, although this might be asking a bit much.

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    I have a lead on a potential story about the owner of a Benrus Type II. Will need some work to compile that one...hoping to get that ready in a few months to share with you guys.

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    Ken,
    What makes this post extraordinary, in my opinion, is the following. Each of us, collectors of military watches, knows that each military watch has a story, but we do not know the exact story. The stories that we do know are sterile data about when and how much of the pieces have been issued, for which army unit etc.
    And than of course there are the stories of sellers and buyers who say : this watch belonged to Winston Churchill, general Eisenhower, general Patton, Montgomery or both.
    Never a proof, no paperwork, no historical documents, facts or affirmed observation.
    Here you show what an interested collector can achieve. You track a former owner of a RAF Mk 11, 1952, who teaches us a lesson in navigation, live in a Canadian restaurant. Who also explains what a Mk 11 meant to most of the navigators in those days when it had to go for service : just an ordinary watch of scrap value! A navigator who probably safed together with the pilot the lives of the Jordan Royal Family, using the right watch (=: , but wearing nowadays a "Timex". Your report clearly explains the appreciation for a Mk 11 between a "user" in 1952 and a collector in 2011 (50 years later). It also explains the loss of hundreds of these watches during service and after decommission.
    Different to any report is how you documented this in a perfect way. You deserve a reward for this.
    Extraordinary..
    Regards,
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    What a fantastic post!!! Thank you so much for sharing. Frank and I have something in common as well. We both Met King Hussein of Jordan. Only I met him decades later (1998) at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester MN. Spoke to him on several occasions while there, and was always greeted with a smile and a handshake after our initial meeting. We would sit and chat in one of the common areas when we had the time. He was there for cancer treatment, and I was there for a kidney transplant.
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    Default Fantastic tale

    Congratulations on the watch and the story.

    - SJX

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    I must have read this post a few dozen times by now... This and Konrad's Certina resurrection are among my all time favorite MWR posts. One bump for the newbies. Enjoy! -Khurram

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    Yay, fantastic thread, great watch and great story! Thank you Khurram from a grateful newbie! (And I do love Konrad's Certina thread too).
    Best regards,
    Sylvie

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    Wow. I've been digging through MWR for a few years now and thought I'd seen most of the posts that were of interest to me. Was I wrong! Thanks Khurram for bumping this to the top, and a big thanks to Ken for the amazing research and investigating that went into this. Frank seems like a true gentleman.

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