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leroytwohawks
02-05-2009, 08:17
I would like to know his reputation before I order anything from him. Does anyone have one of his watches?

And how are they?

bjp
02-05-2009, 08:46
I'd be asking him some questions before I seriously considered one:


Is the movement a Unitas 6497 or a Chinese 6497 clone? (It just states "Manual mechanical 6497 movement ") [same goes for 7750 models]


What is "Personalized oscillating weight"? Does he inscribe your name on the balance or something? He ain't talking about a signed rotor, because a manual doesn't have a rotor.


The product description says 3 atm water resistance. The caseback says 300meters (30 atm). Which is it?


What kind of crystal is "Top glass: Flat scratch-proof fiber glass"? Fiberglass? Does he mean acrylic?


"Crown: polished, tightly screwed down to avoid leakage and also for timepiece accuracy" Huh? How does a screwdown crown help accuracy?


I don't mean to sound too cynical, Leroytwohawks, but is that your website? This isn't a shill, is it? (Martin......you got your hammer?) :toetap05:

If you're legitimately asking about this site and these watches, I'd personally be a bit hesitant to buy anything from there. Of course, I don't see any prices posted, so maybe they're good deals (?). There are enough issues with product descriptions to make me run, though.


-ben

leroytwohawks
02-05-2009, 09:06
NO IT'S NOT MY SITE!!!

My dad was a watch repairman. I love watches I just bought a new Seiko SUMO from a member on another watch fourm. Hey I'm ligit I don't sell watches I just buy what I like.

I have just seen several of these Marina Militare replica watches on here and other watch fourms going for between $200 and $500 there a cool looking watch but I don't want a piece of crap and can't afford a real Panarai. I saw this guy list one of his on a fourm for cheap like $90 thats why I have to ask it just seems like a scam to me and I did'nt know if anybody has gotten scamed or not.


I don't mean to sound too cynical, Leroytwohawks, but is that your website? This isn't a shill, is it? (Martin......you got your hammer?) :toetap05:

If you're legitimately asking about this site and these watches, I'd personally be a bit hesitant to buy anything from there. Of course, I don't see any prices posted, so maybe they're good deals (?). There are enough issues with product descriptions to make me run, though.


-ben[/QUOTE]

bjp
02-05-2009, 09:16
It doesn't look like a scam, per se, as much as it looks like a bunch of questionable product.

I'd guess, if he's selling them for 90 bucks, he's not making them. He's sourcing them in bulk from China.

I'd doubt water resistance would be much of anything, regardless of what is stated in product info or on the case. And the movements, well that could be hit or miss. Basic movement (HAS to be the Chinese 6497 clone at that price), could probably be brought up to decent performance level.

If I were in the market for a Panerai style watch, I'd rather save a few more bucks and get a bit better quality from a known entity, personally. There are plenty of sellers out there. No reason to go out on a limb.
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I wasn't trying to be offensive, Leroytwohawks, in asking if it was your site. First post, link to some ?? watch site, smells like a shill. It happens pretty frequently.

Stick around. This is a good place to learn. Lots of knowledgable guys here. I don't know a lot, but I'm learning every day.


-ben

timbo
02-05-2009, 09:19
Movement
Manual Asian Mechanical 6497 Movement
Hand-winding
Power Reserve 56 Hour (after full winding)
Personalized oscillating weight
21,600 alternations /hour.

Still don't know what Personalized oscillating weight is...

leroytwohawks
02-05-2009, 09:29
bjp,

Thanks for the responce back. Like I said I love nice watches and my dad would never teach me the trade because at the time it was going by the wayside for Quartz. Now its comming back and I wish I could have learned from him. He started fixing instrements on Navy ships in WW2 wich got him into the biz after the war and was one of the last real watch repair men left in the Dallas Fort Worth area when he died many years ago.

lysander
02-05-2009, 10:02
How does a screwdown crown help accuracy?When a case fills up with water it tends to slow down. :lol:

Bretta
02-05-2009, 10:18
Why don't you save up your hard-earned money and buy a real Panerai rather than this fake, wannabe crap.

Sorry if that sounds a bit harsh, but these watches aren't worth sh*t, let alone the fact that they are a complete rip-off of the Panerai design.

bjp
02-05-2009, 10:47
When a case fills up with water it tends to slow down. :lol:

:eek6:

alright........you did owe me one from the other day at WUS.

:lol:

:cheers2:

ben

milwatchnut
02-05-2009, 10:56
If you search e-bay for Unitas (it may take several searches during several days) you'll see offerred for sale both genuine Swiss Unitas 6498/6497 in various level of finishing, and also the Chinese clones.

Specify in your search criteria [all countries] so you see what's on offer from other than US sellers.

You will find that the Swiss made movements sell for hundreds (varies by level of finish) while the Chinese variety can be had for approx. $50 plus or minus depending on level of finish.

Also, you'll see Panny look-alikes with Swiss movements at more affordable prices. There seems to be several German sellers of these Swiss movement Panny look-alikes.

Back to your original question. I'll bet dollars to donuts that at $90 these watches have Chinese clone movements and not Swiss Unitas.

I hope this helps.

milwatchnut
02-05-2009, 18:52
Here's a few pics borrowed without permission from auctions, web-sites etc. and shown here to illustrate above discussion. All pics are of Swiss made Unitas 6498/6497 movements. Note levels of finishing and decorating. Prices vary accordingly.
Cote de Geneve stripes, pvd, swan neck regulator, blued screws, decorated wheels with beveled teeth etc. all add to the cost.
If you move into skeletonized movements the price increases further.

<p><center><img src=http://home.earthlink.net/~milwatchnut/Misc/SwissArmyAmbassadorUnitas.jpg><p><img src=http://home.earthlink.net/~milwatchnut/Misc/SwanNeckBlued_1.jpg><p><img src=http://home.earthlink.net/~milwatchnut/Misc/SunGears.jpg></center>